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posted by [personal profile] the_dala at 06:16pm on 03/06/2007 under
Went to see AWE for a fourth time today. You'd think there couldn't be anything new to spot, but I was paying close attention to discussions of the curse, and I can't see any answer but that the original terms between Davy Jones and Calypso were for eternity with the one-day-per-decade addendum. While explaining things to Pintel and Ragetti, she says "And every ten years, him could come ashore, and be with she who love him" - I'd thought I might be misremembering it and it was actually 'after ten years,' but no, it's definitely 'every ten years.' Also, in their conversation in the brig, there's no discussion of Calypso having stuck him on the Dutchman because she failed to show - he just thinks she doesn't love him anymore. And it actually makes sense for Calypso's line about her nature - which is not merely that she's capricious, but that she's a goddess. What's ten years to an eternity, really? She'll be there next time. To Davy, of course, who was still a man at that point, it's a big fucking deal. Someone on one of the discussion comms - [livejournal.com profile] venusinchains? - recently put forth the idea that Davy himself might have come up with the ten years/true love deal, which I like because it seems the sort of thing he'd do - he wouldn't think it plausible that a lover would stay faithful for ten years, and he'd want the next captain to feel the same pain he felt. In any case, the precise description of that curse or aspect of the curse is STILL not in the movie.

Also? I really, really don't think those two kids are gonna work things out in the afterlife. She only smiled to think he still loved her when she believed he'd merely turned into a monster because of a broken heart. After Will tells her that it was Jones who told the Brethren Court how to bind her, she is PISSED. I'm not sure the storm was actually meant to bring him down - it's more likely that she was just exercising her power after so long and throwing an extra wrench into everybody's plans. That scene where Davy Jones looks up into the gathering storm is telling: at first he looks rapturous to feel the drops of rain on his face - a lover's caress - but then he yells in defiance, realizing that she's never going to forgive him for being responsible for her imprisonment. And maybe that's the nature of the creature he's become, too. Can't say I'm too bothered, personally. He's a complex villain with degrees of sympathy, but he killed my James, he doesn't deserve the love of the sea ::shrugs::

During the course of the movie I also got my personal fanon for the underworld/the other side worked out, at least for the purposes of "Keeping Faith." Something of a relief. I'm not gonna go into it here because of spoilage, but I'm happy with it, and it solves a problem I was having.

I keep forgetting to mention this, but at last: I freakin' love Pintel's line "That's downright macab-ree." And I'm still the only person in the theater who cracks up at it.

Oh, and I sat to watch the coda scene again. The kid definitely could be a boy or a girl, in my opinion. I still like Elizabeth's outfit. And I honestly can't tell whether or not Will's on the Dutchman or another ship. In the shot of his face, I could only see the generic rigging at the edge of the frame; when we pull back to show Elizabeth and Turner Jr. on the hill waiting for him, it's too wide a shot of the ship. The sails look white, but then, the Dutchman's sails did look white when it came back up with Will as captain; it's not clear whether or not it has the frondy-things. I dunno, did I miss a closer and more extensive shot of the ship before we saw Will?

ETA: Has anybody written Will ferrying Weatherby yet? Because...mine.

And I nearly forgot! I have a fanwank for the green flash, and the fact that it seems to appear when the Dutchman leaves as well as when ships come back. Remember that the green flash signifying a soul returned from the other side is a plot point we receive from our exposition fairies, Gibbs and Pintel. Well...what if they're wrong? (Lin, don't shoot me!) It's legend, after all - it could've been whittled down from any number of reasons to the one about the soul returning. Seems the sort of thing sailors would glom onto, doesn't it?
Mood:: 'contemplative' contemplative

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